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DNC calls for an end to Superdelegates

by: Oreo

Wed Dec 30, 2009 at 17:50:23 PM EST


They may not go away completely but won't have the power they used to if this comes to pass.

A commission of Democratic leaders on Wednesday recommended their party virtually eliminate superdelegates from their presidential candidate nomination process.

Their proposal -- commissioned by the Democratic National Committee in the aftermath of last year's tough primary season -- would essentially make the "superdelegate" post an honorary position.

Consequently, these powerful party leaders could no longer select the candidate of their choice; rather, their votes would be tied to the outcome of their respective states' primaries, which choose winners by popular vote. - The Hill

You can read more of our Superdelegate coverage here.

Update: More from DemRulz:

The Commission approved a draft report that recommends converting most automatic unpledged “superdelegates” to pledged delegates who will fill slots reflecting the voter preferences in their state’s primary or caucuses – thus becoming automatic, pledged, voting convention delegates.  The DNC Rules and Bylaws Commission (RBC) will consider the Commission’s report and then forward proposed delegate selection rules to the DNC for action later in 2010.

Superdelegates:  The draft report proposes a new category of National Party Leader and Elected Officials (NPLEO) delegates who will serve as full voting delegates to the national convention.  The current proposal thus backs off from the prior proposal which would have made superdelegates non-voting delegates.  The current add-on unpledged delegate positions that were filled at state conventions would be eliminated.  Each state would receive a number of additional delegates (NPLEOs) that is equal to the number of its current automatic delegates – including all DNC members (elected, at large, state party chairs and vice chairs, and DNC officers), members of Congress, Governors, and Distinguished Former Party Leaders.  After the state has held its primary or caucus process and determined the percentage of delegates to be allocated to each presidential candidate, the NPLEOs, like the current At Large and PLEO delegates, would be allocated to those candidates.  Each NPLEO then woukld have the choice of pledging to a candidate or not pledging to any candidate and participating in the convention as a nonvoting delegate.

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Huh? (0.00 / 0)

Think I need to see the exact way that this rule would read.  It sounds good in theory but the practical application seems unclear.

If I am understanding the summary correctly (to use my state for example), we would get our 6 DNC delegates (Chair, Vice-Chair, and four elected committeepersons), our four Congressmen, our 1 or 2 Senators, and our retired minority leader for a total of 12 or 13 NPLEOs.  Let's assume in our hypothetical future election, Canidate A wins 7  NPLEOs and Candidate B wins the remaining 5 or 6.

Here is where the exact language will matter because I see two main possibilities:

1)  These NPLEO slots can only be filled by the NPLEO.  In which case, what happens if 8 of the NPLEOs have endorsed Candidate A, 3 have endorsed Candidate B, and 2 are uncommitted.  It appears from the summary that Candidate A would have to pick 7 of the 8 to be his pledged NPLEOs.  The leftover NPLEO would have to switch his/her pledge to candidate B to be a voting NPLEO.  Would Candidate B have to accept that "pledge" and run the risk of that NPLEO voting for Candidate A in a tight convention?  Additionally, if the leftover candidate A NPLEO does not pledge for Candidate B and the uncommitted NPLEOs decide to stay uncommitted, does that leave Candidate B with only 3 pledged NPLEOs despite having won the right to 6 NPLEOs.

2)  These NPLEO slots like the current PLEO slots can be filled by any person.  (Yes, I know the current rule suggests who should be given priority for these slots, but that suggestion is not entirely binding.)  In which case, will some NPLEOs be locked into attending the convention as non-voting delegates.



All good questions (0.00 / 0)
DemRulz has some similar questions. I think lots of details still need to be worked out.

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Imagine the Possibilities (0.00 / 0)
The basic idea here seems to be that elected/appointed officials need to do the bidding of the majority of the electorate.

Think this could start a trend?

IMAGINE if Congressmen and Senators had to vote as their constituents wanted. I'm talking voters, not large campaign/PAC contributors.  


actually they do now.... (0.00 / 0)
it is just that the voters do not stay organized, are not willing to organize a petition to recall unless the politician commits an agregious transgression. i wonder if any more direct control from the voter would increase citizen involvement in the govt, and i wonder how long it would take the power brokers to figure out a way to corrupt a new system:)

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Haven't seen much out of Congress that shows they vote as their constituents want. Health Care bill for example. There would be a robust public option in it if they did. They fold to special interest, not constituent base. But your point about not willing to petition to recall them is valid. I think the main reason is, that for the most part, sane Americans are independent thinkers and doers. Sure there are lemming groups like the new Rep Teabaggers, but for the most part there are not large enough groups of people that think alike. Maybe why there are some disagreements/discussions on this board. While we are Dems, we don't agree on everything.

The power brokers and special interest groups will continue to run the Country, because we, the American voter, are not as strong and wealthy of a voice.  


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if you are a line employee at a large corporation, and the chain of command is muddled because each mid level manager is allowed to follow his own vision, (0.00 / 0)
 you will probably work for the mgr who is most friendly to you, and the one who makes your life easier. we are those mid level guys, along with the lobbyists, so why do you think they dont work for us?

they run the country because most americans cannot to be bothered to get involved, they prefer to complain, and pat themselves on the back for picking between preselected candidtes.

until we take our responsibility seriously, i dont mean me and you, but all americans, we will continue to get what we are gettting. i do admire the teabaggers for the passion they bring, as wrong as selfish as they may be, they are trying to DO something!


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in your analogy (0.00 / 0)
Mid level and bottom level get laid off if they try to dictate what management should do for them (unless it is done through a union).

Problem with groups like the teabaggers are they tend to be nutty. So while they make a lot of noise, their message is whacky.  


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