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Loyalty Oaths and Campaign Promises

by: DocJess

Tue Nov 24, 2009 at 05:01:54 AM EST


Yesterday I met a young man who has never registered to vote. Nice guy. Decided against registering when the table was set up in high school, now a few years later, he sees no reason to vote. NO REASON TO VOTE! You might think this is a standard "I don't want to register because then I can be called to jury duty" story, but it's not.

The man has issues with which he is concerned, specifically DOMA, DADT and gay marriage. He knew about the Prop 1 vote in Maine, and said he was disappointed that the people didn't see the need for marriage equality. I explained that if he had lived in Maine and wasn't registered, that would have been a potential vote lost. That if similar legislation ended up on the ballot here in Pennsylvania, and all the people who were in favour were unregistered, the cretins could vote it down. Epiphany.

He said the real reason he never registered was that politicians promised things, and then went back on them. He said that no one seemed to stand for anything,

I thought about that while reading an article about the RNC "Purity" Resolution. It's basically a loyalty oath which will probably be voted on at the January RNC meeting.

Republican leaders are circulating a resolution listing 10 positions Republican candidates should support to demonstrate that they “espouse conservative principles and public policies” that are in opposition to “Obama’s socialist agenda.” According to the resolution, any Republican candidate who broke with the party on three or more of these issues– in votes cast, public statements made or answering a questionnaire – would be penalized by being denied party funds or the party endorsement.

Two basic things: notice that they chose the word "purity" in lieu of "loyalty". I hear Germany in the '30's in that term, but maybe that's just me. The other thing is that the overwhelming drive of the list involves the word "opposing". The list is after the jump, so you can see what I mean. The list has no ideas, just things to oppose. 

I have such mixed feelings about this that I don't even know where to begin. 

On the one hand, the list represents everything I dedicate my life to fighting against. On the other hand, I actually believe there is a benefit in people reading the party platform, and then sticking with it. On some third hand, I wonder if this brings the Republican Party closer to implosion by forcing moderates out. I wonder if the Democratic Party had a loyalty oath dedicated to positive action on the part of government, would that make us stronger or weaker? If there are loyalty oaths, does that bring us closer to leaving the two-party system and moving to a set of multiple parties with different issue thrusts, and the potentiality of needing to form coalition governments on specific issues?

I wonder if we had a "loyalty oath" on the issue of health care reform, would we already have a bill ready to implement in January 2010, or fewer members? And which would be better?

Certainly I understand that it's generally a good idea to have a platform to which one adheres to receive party funding. One of the reasons I don't give money to the party is because it can go to ostensible Democrats who actively work against my interests, my issues, and my philosophy.

As for the party endorsements, in the Democratic Party, these have often led to the "preferred" candidate being a moderate or a conservadem, as opposed to a progressive, dating back to the DLC in the early '90's. 

And finally, how much easier for my young friend, and many others like him, if it were possible to know where candidates stood, and to be certain that, if elected, they would remain with those positions?

I don't have a clear answer. What about you?

DocJess :: Loyalty Oaths and Campaign Promises

(1) We support smaller government, smaller national debt, lower deficits and lower taxes by opposing bills like Obama’s “stimulus” bill;

(2) We support market-based health care reform and oppose Obama-style government run health care;

(3) We support market-based energy reforms by opposing cap and trade legislation;

(4) We support workers’ right to secret ballot by opposing card check;

(5) We support legal immigration and assimilation into American society by opposing amnesty for illegal immigrants;

(6) We support victory in Iraq and Afghanistan by supporting military-recommended troop surges;

(7) We support containment of Iran and North Korea, particularly effective action to eliminate their nuclear weapons threat;

(8) We support retention of the Defense of Marriage Act;

(9) We support protecting the lives of vulnerable persons by opposing health care rationing and denial of health care and government funding of abortion; and

(10) We support the right to keep and bear arms by opposing government restrictions on gun ownership.

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Reagan would FAIL (0.00 / 0)
They had a segment tonight on MSNBC's Countdown about this and they said that President Reagan would have failed 4 out of 10 and  would have been 'kicked out of the party'...



Elected Officials (0.00 / 0)
Should only be loyal to their constituents, and no one else.

Congress hasn't worked FOR America in a long long time.


This is a very bad idea... (0.00 / 0)
Since we only really have a 2 party system, most Americans do not agree with everything that a party stands for.  They may agree more with one, but to limit people in your party, just because they only agree with you 60% of the time is a HORRIBLE idea.. It limits ideas, actions, self-motivation and potential greatness from our elected officials.

Process unity (0.00 / 0)
Like the commenters above me, I don't want the Dems to have a platform-based loyalty oath.

But I do think there maybe should be some anti-obstructionist principles. Things like, in the Senate, "I will not oppose cloture if a majority of my caucus supports it."

Or "I will not put holds on a Democratic President's nominees."

Or "I will vote for my party's Leader/Speaker." (I'm looking at you, New York State Senate.)

Perhaps something about endorsing the opponent of a Democrat, although I'm a little loath to give up that check on particularly corrupt or ineffective incumbents.

This kind of list of principles won't help PR, it won't shrink the tent, and it won't cause politicians to lose touch with their constituents.

But it will give some meaning to being a member of our party: if you want campaign support, and you want committee chairmanships, then don't throw up roadblocks against your fellow Democrats.


I think a loyalty oath should encompass not voting for, donating money to and campaigning/endorsing a member (0.00 / 0)
of another party, if there a member of your own party in a partisan race. i also think the rules about not blocking party cloture or nominees are fair. one may vote on the nominee or bill as one chooses, but one may not block either through procedural manner.

Good way to deal with it (0.00 / 0)
I like the way you phrased the endorsement/donation/campaigning issue. So if it's, say, William Jefferson, with stacks of cash in the freezer, other Democrats could critique him and pointedly not endorse him. But they still shouldn't endorse his Republican opponent.

Oh, and on a more minor note, I wouldn't include the voting piece. The secret ballot is a big deal, and there's no way to know if someone is telling the truth about who they voted for.


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Vote for the crook, it is important (0.00 / 0)
I disagree. You have to look at the two (or more) candidates, and endorse the better one, even if better is not very good. If the Democratic candidate is actually a neo-Nazi which happened to win the Democratic primary (which happened in the 1986 Lt. Gov. race in Illinois), then I would certainly support a run-of-the-mill Republican against him. In the 1986 race, the Democratic establishment actually encouraged ticket splitting since they could not support their own candidate.

In summary, endorsing a candidate does not mean you agree with him, it means simply that you prefer him over his opponent.


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Loeb (0.00 / 0)
That was my ALL TIME favourite political bumper sticker....

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yes, but if they say they are voting for someone running against their party.... (0.00 / 0)


when i was an active member of the local democratic executive committee (0.00 / 0)
we had to take such an oath. i think elected officials who are party members should take the same oath.

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Blindly supporting the military (0.00 / 0)
The GOP expects us to blindly accept military recommendations for a surge. They do not seem to understand that we are a Democracy not a military junta.

(6) We support victory in Iraq and Afghanistan by supporting military-recommended troop surges;

By similar logic the directors of the Internal Revenue Service are the most expect in tax policy, so do you think the GOP would agree that we should blindly accept any tax increase recommended by the IRS?





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