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Scalia Believes Religion Should be Part of Government

by: DocJess

Sat Sep 26, 2009 at 11:00:00 AM EDT


Antonin Scalia gave an interview to a right wing religious newspaper. You can read it here. The major part of the interview is Scalia's view on how it is WRONG for the American government to remain neutral in issues involving religion. He believes that religion should be PREFERRED.

A few of the gems:

  • I have been here for a long time now - 23 years. In that time, I think the Court has become more receptive to the needs of religious practice.
  • [T]he court [...] adopted the so-called principle of neutrality - which states that the government cannot favor religion over non-religion. This is not an accurate representation of what Americans believe. 
  • It has not been our American constitutional tradition, nor our social or legal tradition, to exclude religion from the public sphere. Whatever the Establishment Clause means, it certainly does not mean that government cannot accommodate religion, and indeed favor religion.

Scary stuff.

People say that Scalia is a bright guy, but I'm thinking that he hasn't realized that when there is true religious "preference" on the part of government, you end up with places like Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, etc., where people are stoned to death for breaking religious laws. Admittedly, that's the Koran not the Bible, but in case you've forgotten the West Wing episode where President Bartlett quotes the internet letter to the Laura Schlessinger stand-in, I've put that whole letter after the jump. I wonder how Scalia's religious views jibe with the smiting, killing and selling into slavery parts...

He did say one thing of interest:

If and when I am placed in the position of having to render a judgment that makes me an instrument of evil, my recourse is not to lie regarding the meaning of law and come out the other way but to step down from the bench and perhaps join a revolution. 

HHMMNN. If Scalia actually is a man of conscience and honour, he should step down NOW. Unlike Spunky Palin, I CAN name a litany of Supreme Court decisions. But in the same vein that I don't list out the state capitals just because, I'll spare you and just pick one: Boumediene, et. al. v. Bush wherein the Court ruled that habeas corpus applied to Gitmo detainees. Scalia disagreed. It is pure evil to deny human rights to human beings.

DocJess :: Scalia Believes Religion Should be Part of Government
Dear Dr. Laura,

Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and I try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind him that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate.

I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the specific laws and how to best follow them.

a) When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord (Lev 1:9). The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

b) I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

c) I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness (Lev 15:19-24). The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

d) Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?

e) I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?

f) A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an Abomination (Lev 11:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this?

g) Lev 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?

h) Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev 19:27. How should they die?

i) I know from Lev 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

j) My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? (Lev 24:10-16) Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help.

Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.

Your devoted disciple and adoring fan.

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A bit misleading? (0.00 / 0)
He did say one thing of interest:

   If and when I am placed in the position of having to render a judgment that makes me an instrument of evil, my recourse is not to lie regarding the meaning of law and come out the other way but to step down from the bench and perhaps join a revolution.

That sentence can be taken wrong without the preceding and next sentences of the text.

I hope my religious views do not affect my opinions at all. Other than observing the commandment "thou shalt not lie," there is no aspect of my religion that plays a role in my judicial opinions. If and when I am placed in the position of having to render a judgment that makes me an instrument of evil, my recourse is not to lie regarding the meaning of law and come out the other way but to step down from the bench and perhaps join a revolution. As long as I am wearing my robes and sworn to uphold the Constitution, I try to do it as it is written.

This country was founded on Religion. Religion Freedom that is. You can choose the version. Bible, Koran, None, or any other form. If he were quoting a bible in rulings, then he would be someone that would need to be removed from the bench.  


Jess, a bit of overreaction? (0.00 / 0)
I think you make too much of Scalia's words. As long as he does not take judgment based on his religion first and Constitution second he is not a danger of any kind. On the other hand I totally agree religion should be 200% separated from government.

Need to study more about things scalia has said (0.00 / 0)
I remember reading about something in which he basically said that the word of God should govern the country, not the will of the people. I will try to find it again to quote it directly, but I feel very confident in saying there is no such thing as overreacting to Antonin Scalia. It is terrifying that this man serves on our highest court and the country will breathe a sigh of relief the day he serves no longer.

Please continue this conversation if you want by finding me on twitter @Lord_Chadeous

[ Parent ]
he is a trueblue wingnut (0.00 / 0)
yet he sits in judgement, scary! but consider this, from wikiquote:

On the difference between himself and Justice Clarence Thomas: I'm a conservative, I'm a textualist, I'm an originalist, but I'm not a nut.
Quoted by Jeffrey Toobin in an interview with Terry Gross on Fresh Air, September 19, 2007


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dear dr. jess (0.00 / 0)
g) would get me

...so sue me :P

The other stuff I would eagerly take up. I have a neighbor whose dog wakes us up. We have apples and weed(s) in the same field. ;)

Thank goodness we have a new covenant with the West Wing.

Seriously, this sounds like something that should be looked into. To reiterate, we have freedom of religion, but church and state should be seperate, or this country is led by a theocracy.



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