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DNC considering reduction or elimination of superdelegates

by: Matt

Sat Jun 27, 2009 at 18:06:51 PM EDT


The DNC's Democrat Change Commission held its first meeting today to discuss changes to the presidential nomination process. The Washington Post sets the scene:

There is no end to the complaints about the way the two political parties select their presidential nominees. As the litany goes, the process begins too early, gives undue influence to a handful of small, unrepresentative states and has encouraged disorderly leapfrogging by other states that has resulted in an unseemly, virtual national primary early in the season.

Over the years, the nominating process has been examined repeatedly by the political parties, by distinguished commissions, by academics and by secretaries of state, all with the goal of building a better mousetrap. Virtually all have resulted in disappointment or unintended consequences. 

The DCC is examining 3 issues: 1) the primary calendar 2) superdelegates 3) caucuses. Josh at Frontloading HQ is THE source for primary calendar info, and he's already got info on the primary calendar discusion. Here, we'll look at the superdelegates:

The Democrats have been charged with looking not only at the timing of the calendar but also at the role of so-called superdelegates. This became a source of genuine controversy during the Obama-Clinton battle over the question of whether these elected officials and party leaders might override the will of the voters and hand the nomination to Clinton.

At least one student of the process, Elaine Kamarck of Harvard's Kennedy School of Government, recommended yesterday that it is time to eliminate superdelegates. Kamarck, author of the forthcoming book on the nominating process called "Primary Politics," argued that the selection of presidential nominees is now a public process and has eliminated the need for a group of elites who could assert themselves in the equivalent of a back-room role to settle a disputed nominated.

She made her case before an audience that included many past and potentially future superdelegates. The response was skeptical. Instead, the goal of leading members of the DNC panel appears to be a more limited role for superdelegates, either by reducing their numbers or diluting their influence. 

There are two main types of superdelegates: Members of the House and Senate, and members of the Democratic National Committee. The DNC purposely made Members of Congress superdelegates to entice them to come to conventions. Before the superdelegates, many of them stayed away, which was embarrassing. So it seems unlikely that their designation will change. As for the members of the DNC, the easiest thing is to give them 1/2 votes instead of full votes. We'll keep an eye out for what the other superdelegate proposals actually say.

Update: A DNC memo states:

The Democratic Change Commission has been charged with the task of recommending revisions to the Delegate Selection Rules for the 2012 Democratic National Convention to provide for a "significant reduction" in the number of unpledged Party leader and elected official ("PLEO") delegates in order to enlarge the role and influence of primary and caucus votes in the presidential nominating process.

This is key. The DCC is charged with reducing the number of superdelegates. The only question, then, is how big the reduction will be.

Update 2: This charge actually came out of the Rules Committee just before the convention, and was approved by the convention - so it's not new news.

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i dont know how many DNC members you know, but..... (0.00 / 0)
i can't imagine ANY of them wanting to give up their superdelgate status. and i am pretty sure the DNC would get the last say on it...

Maybe (0.00 / 0)
I got the impression some of them really didn't like the pressure/responsibility/attention last time around. DNC members are often people who enjoy working a bit behind the scenes; otherwise someone with that much political interest and energy would tend to run for office themselves.  

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Well (4.00 / 1)
2008 was a rare event. Most cycles, the superdelegates will not be under any pressure/responsibility/attention. But being a superdelegate also allows them to attend the convention and be on the convention floor where all the fun us, which I think is important to the DNC members. I think an obvious fix would be to give the DNC members 1/2 vote, or even make them non-voting delegates.

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The DNC most assuredly gets the final say. (0.00 / 0)
The Democratic Change Commission is just a study group that will ultimately make a recommendation to the Rules and Bylaws by January 1, 2010.  The Rules and Bylaws Committee will then choose whether to accept the recommendations and will do so by the fall of next year.  Now, I'll have to check, but I don't know that any RBC members were simultaneously superdelegates in 2008 (before 2008, perhaps).  That may bode well for any superdelegate-reduction measure if the DCC is able to push such a change through.

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Most RBC members were superdelegates (0.00 / 0)
Most were members of the DNC, and therefore were superdelegates in 2008. The list of RBC members can be found here.

and if you have to ask where to find a list of superdelegates...


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This ... (0.00 / 0)
Should give the "pumas" a collective orgasm ....

See my update (0.00 / 0)
The DCC has been charged with reducing the number of supers. So the only question is, how much of a reduction will happen, and how they do it.

not having a political background (0.00 / 0)
I was intrigued by the process. Personally think the SDs should only be used in case of disputes or ties. I like the people electing their candidates. But what do I know. ;o)

caucuses (0.00 / 0)
I certainly hope they don't get rid of caucuses.  This is democracy in real life, a la town meetings.

Just because Clinton was a terrible organizer, we shouldn't throw out an historic part of the process.  In fact, the existence of caucuses showed up a real flaw in her as a candidate, and probably as a leader.


hard to imagine the DNC coming up with a system that would have hurt (0.00 / 0)
the sitting president! i love caucuses, but then i am a political junkie. i have participated in one caucus, and it was the closest thing to nirvana i have ever experienced (ok, maybe that is a slight exaggeration)anyway, i dont advocate for a nationwide caucus, but i love that we have a few states that caucus. i kinda like the texas two step. where everybody can vote, but the die hards can double their impact with a little commitment.....

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No system can hurt Obama (0.00 / 0)
This is all about 2016.

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Options (0.00 / 0)

Think the easiest way to cut the number of unpledged supers is to eliminate the unpledged add-ons and convert them to pledged PLEOs.  In all likelihood, the same people would be chosen.

Then you could give the DNC members a fraction of a vote.  

This combination would reduce the over-all influence of supers and shift the influence within the supers to elected officials.  If you are going to have supers, I think it makes sense that the most influence within the super delegates belongs to the individuals that have to run on the ballot with the nominee.

 



That makes sense (0.00 / 0)
I don't think people have problems with Members of Congress having votes. It's the anonymous DNC members which I think were the real issue.

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