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Governor Sanford Has Had a Strange Interest in Argentina For a While Now

by: Oreo

Wed Jun 24, 2009 at 15:20:10 PM EDT


You really have to wonder how long Governor Sanford has been cheating on his wife. Seems he's been very interested in Argentina for some time. Here are just a few of the many references Sanford has made or been a part of concerning Argentina before his little "trip".

You have to admit that talking about Argentina in two State of the State Addresses and one Inaugural address goes a little beyond coincidence.

A day earlier, Mr. Sanford talked about Zimbabwe, Argentina and post-World War I Germany as examples of nations that dealt ineptly with hard economic times. - Augusta Chronicle - 5/13/09

 

SANFORD: It would. But again, I think that if economic history is any guide, that will unfortunately not prove to be the case. Everybody wants a better and stronger economy, but the idea of printing a bunch of money that you don't have as a way of, quote, "stimulating the economy" is at odds with economic reality and it's at odds with economic history. A place like Argentina tried this in the 1920s. It was disastrous for the currency.  - FoxNews 4/16/09

 

HODGES SLAMS SANFORD FOR TRIPS Governor says taxpayers footed excessive travel bills Gov. Jim Hodges on Friday questioned former U.S. Rep. Mark Sanford's taxpayer-funded trips overseas during his six years in Congress. Hodges said his Republican rival for governor traveled to 16 countries and four continents. "To be fair to Congressman Sanford, a certain amount of official travel goes with the job," Hodges said.

...Sanford traveled to Brazil, Argentina, Chile, Panama, Colombia, Bolivia, ....The State - 2002

 

In the similar vein, Argentina had the highest per capita income of any country on the globe in the 1920s, but because it didn’t change its government structure, it failed to adapt to changes in the world. Its economy now shows it. - State of the State Address 1/22/03

 

Gov. Mark Sanford ranks in the top 50 based on the total amount he spent on trips paid by his office and those paid by the state Commerce Department. Mr. Sanford has traveled to China, Argentina and Brazil through the Commerce Department, which has travel reports showing taxpayers covering $21,488 for those trips. - Augusta Chronicle 12/2/08

 

Our net international debt is approaching 300 percent of annual exports. Again relevant because countries like Brazil and Argentina saw their net indebtedness rise to only slightly more, around 400 percent of their national exports, at the height of their financial crisis. - State of the State Address 2005

 

The Pan Am Clipper Class used to be the envy of airline travel. One of their planes would fly 32 passengers at 150 miles per hour from point A to point B. The Miami to Buenos Aires flight took 6 days with numerous crew stops along the way. - 2007 Inaugural Address

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MSNBC: one year (0.00 / 0)
I don't know their source but MSNBC was saying that the affair has been going on for one year.

Sanford (0.00 / 0)
The source was doubtless Sanford--that's what he said in the press conference.  

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Yep (0.00 / 0)
Yeah, After I posted here I heard Sanford say it in a clip that MSNBC replayed...  I missed hearing him say that the first time around  ;)

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WOW (0.00 / 0)
Barbour was quick to be the replacement and he has been in the news quite a bit recently in campaigning.  Was this really a surprise and how many more are waiting?
I really do not have a big problem with couples getting a divorce.  It happens, but what in the heck did he do to his kids???????  He couldn't be home for Father's Day?
This has at least been known for 5 months.
He had to go NOW!!!!

Pathetic as a Human Being and did I mention selfish.


Interest in Argentina (0.00 / 0)
Oreo, isn't what you're describing consistent with what Sanford said?

He met this woman on one of those trips you talk about, so the interest in the trips predates the affair. And then what he described was a close friendship involving many long email exchanges over the next nine years. The people I know from Argentina tend to be very interested in their country's politics, history, and economics, so that's bound to feed back to Sanford, who was likely to start working it into his statements.

Then, in the last year, the physical part of the affair took place, although he certainly gave the impression of his being intellectually and emotionally closer to this woman than to his wife for quite some time.

I disagree strongly with Sanford's politics, and he put his own state in jeopardy through his actions. But I wouldn't lump him in with the Republican hypocrites (Craig, Ensign, Vitter) or the Democratic philanderers (Clinton, Spitzer, McGreevey). His mistakes strike me as the kind that human beings make, and I'm not going to throw stones unless we find out what he told us what itself a sham.


Mistake? (0.00 / 0)
I am sure Sanford didn't think it was a mistake 'until' first his wife found out and then the American public.
If his wife knew about this affair since 5 months ago and then Sanford made a choice to go back on down to Argentina to see the woman again on Thursday -- then that was no mistake -- it was a CHOICE and apparently he had no concern for his wife or children at the time he decided to continue the emotional and physical affair.   Sanford, in my opinion, is no different that any other male politician that has cheated on their wives and have been deceitful and should be lumped in with all the other ones.

Men don't just mistakenly end up in bed with women that are not their own wives - they make that choice to do so.



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Not what I meant (0.00 / 0)
I don't think ending up in bed with the Argentinian woman was a mistake in the sense you're talking about--not like, "oops, how did that happen"? What word would you prefer: sin? Fine, then: his sins strike me as the kind that human beings make, and I'm not going to throw stones unless we find out what he told us was itself a sham.

I think he may have made many mistakes in his life that brought him to this press conference at this moment; I wasn't particularly referring to his choice to sleep with a woman who was not his wife, but rather to the whole set of circumstances before and after that he brought upon himself.


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Definition of mistake (0.00 / 0)

Definition of mistake on the Web:

a wrong action attributable to bad judgment or ignorance or inattention; "he made a bad mistake"; "she was quick to point out my errors"; "I could understand his English in spite of his grammatical faults"

The word sin has connotations of religious beliefs and no matter what religion he really screwed up and was/is a very selfish individual.  I personally believe that bringing children into this world is a responsibility to top all things.  If divorce is in the making the top priority is the children.  The man couldn't of waited and kept his junk in his pants and for that matter so could of his girlfriend.  If she really cared she would of waited for him and placed his children as a priority. True Love????  By the way I put zero responsibility on her.  He could of said NO at anytime.
I do not attend church any longer but I have a strong view of right and wrong.  So do my children which honestly empresses me; you don't always know when they are really paying attention.
I do not feel there is any Free Hall Pass here for Sanford.


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About Gov. Sanford (0.00 / 0)
I would be hesitant to defend Gov. Sanford, myself. He did make a mistake that happens to a lot of men, but skipping out on his kids during Father's Day weekend and not telling his wife or kids where he was going, and cooking up this Appalachian Trail story and hiding the truth until there was too much to sweep under the rug, well... I would put him right in there with Sen. Ensign. I don't think this is about having an affair, it's about the devious and deceitful way he did it. And I for one don't think he would have admitted it if he hadn't been caught.

"Is profit and greed the only conceit on a scale between mere prosperity and inhumanity? It may well be." -Bad Religion

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We're confusing the early cover story with what we know now (0.00 / 0)
I know it's hard to sort it out, since we were deceived, but I think his wife did know where he was going. His wife caught him five months ago, remember? The implication is that his relationship with his wife was already something like "separated under the same roof."

He most certainly skipped out on South Carolina, and that was a very irresponsible thing to do. But with his family it sounds as if this had reached the "complicated" stage that often occurs after the partner discovers infidelity.


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I don't think she knew. (0.00 / 0)
They were to be separated for two weeks with no communication and to think about reconciliation.  You know his choice.

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Right (0.00 / 0)
Right--her statement makes that clear. But in any case it wasn't him skipping out on them during Father's Day--even if he'd been in South Carolina he wasn't going to spend Father's Day with them.

Skipping out on the state, yes. As for his family, it sounds like he abandoned them some time ago.


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difference? (0.00 / 0)
I'm having some trouble figuring out how you separate out hypocrites, philanderers, and someone who makes a mistake.  What are your criteria?

I have never understood the mistake explanation for adultery.  I mean, dropping a dish, having a fender bender, etc. is a mistake.  Hopping into bed with someone does not seem to be in the same category.


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Cheaters (0.00 / 0)
My first boss told me that there were 2 kinds of men in this world: men who will cheat on their wives, and men who will not.

He told me that you could (hand) shake on a deal with a guy who wouldn't cheat on his wife, and it was cast in concrete.

A cheater could sign a contract in blood, and you still couldn't trust it.

I've never found this information to be incorrect.  


Indeed (0.00 / 0)
A wedding vow in a figurative sense is a contract signed in blood, basically the most sacred thing we have. And some people go into a marriage without the chops to be faithful and honor those vows. As well as being a good father and in this case, a good governor. I don't have a great deal of sympathy for Gov. Sanford, and it's not because he's a Republican or that this drama is playing out in public, it's because he's a liar. It just makes it worse that he lied to his state and the American people. So much for Sanford '12.

"Is profit and greed the only conceit on a scale between mere prosperity and inhumanity? It may well be." -Bad Religion

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